joining me now is congressman mike rogers of michigan, the charm of the house intelligence committee. congressman, first question is, how did you get the news on this? and how do we know this man is dead? >> well there are a lot of ways to do it. i got it in the early morning hour this morning. but there are, a, intelligence on the fact that it was him in this particular convoy was exceptionally good, very high degree of confidence, and then there is intelligence ways to collect different streams of intelligence following the attack that also confirms the fact that it was anwar al awlaki. >> so what are we talking about here? pictures? does someone have possession of the body? is there dna evidence? how do we know for sure? >> well, we can't talk about all of the ways that we know burke it is a high degree of confidence. so, clearly we have been tracking this individual and trying to find him. there was a shot against anwar al awlaki earlier this year that didn't go well. and so, you know, they were fast on this guy so all streams of intelligent that you might imagine would be collect